Showing posts with label Jim Marinis. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jim Marinis. Show all posts

Tuesday, 11 October 2011

The Continuing Adventures of Jim Marinis

It should be noted that this has naught to do with SM Hellas, so if you don't care about the AFL, you can look away now.

Yes, it's true, away from South Melbourne Hellas, I do take a more than passing interest in the Collingwood Football Club. Feel free to send all hate mail via the comments section.

Been wondering what our old friend Marinis has been up to of late? Me neither until this:

Collingwood furious as manager shops Alan Toovey around via email 

All I can say to Jim is, take that overrated poor man's Rupert Betheras and fuck off.

Hopefully something more South related in the next post.

Thursday, 24 December 2009

Melbourne Knights dig hole to 1987. Or something.

Preface

I'm bored. I don't like Christmas, the FFV didn't manage to get the 2010 VPL fixtures out before they went on their well deserved 18 month break, and I'm getting over some sort of short lived but kinda punchy flu thing. People also aren't sending me their Offset reports so I can make a pretty folder for next year's group, so it will likely appear that I am writing more nonsense than usual.


The Main Part

It's not often that it happens, but every now and again we at South of the Border like to take a look at what's happening at place that aren't South Melbourne. Because you know, we love to whinge about the board, the team, about losing our Greekness, and that most cardinal of sins, selling out to THE (Zionist) MAN, that sometimes we forget how good we have it compared to others.

We could talk about Preston sinking to State League 1, but there for the grace of Dawkins go I and all that. We could talk about Heidelberg's endless shenanigans, but that would necessitate a whole other blog - try out their HUFC-TV, if it's still working, for how not to do a vodcast. Or we could we like the remnants of the once mighty Brunswick Juventus, broken into a million pieces and scattered across this great brown land, one team with the trophies, one team with the grounds, one team with the colours, and several other clubs blended, decanted and spat out along the way. Or George Cross, who owned their own ground, seemingly never made an improvement to it in the 25 or so years they were there, sold it 15 times, boast that at least they had their own venue, but don't seem from an outsider's point of view to know where they're going, what they're doing, and are more akin to being the mule with the spinning wheel.

But instead we'll talk about the attempted regeneration of what was once a mighty foe, who like us was dumped from the top flight or humbly chose to withdraw from those aspirations, depending on whose version of events you go by. The glory days of the Melbourne Knights - or Melbourne Croatia as they were once known - are long gone, especially from the heady on field days of the mid 1990s, where their machine, by a probable combination of good management and fortune took all before it, before its best and brightest left to light up the world's football stage.

After a decade's worth of decline on the park and off it, as the local Croatian community, with a newly independent homeland secured and the relative flood of immigration drawing to a mere trickle - pretty much like every other European community - local crane entrepreneur and alleged underworld identity Matt Tomas took over with a plan. The plan was to take the Knights forward, into the boldness of tomorrow. There were tangible differences and speculative fairytale stuff that's harder to pin the compass of truth on. The more or less truth. More money was splashed around, and results, at least initially, seemed to improve. They got to a grand final, which they lost in the 120th minute. They got massive sponsors on board, including online gaming behemoth Mansion88 - who also sponsor the Tottenham Hotspur - and they even repainted the Mark Viduka Stand - hell, they even got Mansion88 as the ground's naming rights sponsor.

Off the field, the stories flew into FourFourTwo Australia's inbox thick and fast. They were going to move to Melton. They would be part of the 2nd Melbourne A-league licence bid. They'd become a feeder to Adelaide United, after Tomas and friends would take it over. Stuff like that. Stuff that seemingly never happened. And to do all that, the club would have to be de-Croatianised. A club which, even in the heady mainstreaming days of the NSL, barely made a tokenistic effort to open up - and it was their absolute right not do to so - was heading head first into the future. And the majority of its support base, those that were left anyway, were not impressed. Every club must have a reason for being. The reason doesn't always stay the same, but there must be something to underpin why anyone would bother to turn up and do what needs to be done to keep such an operation in motion. The reasons that Tomas and his board provided - a board that included former South board member Jim Marinis - didn't seem to wash with the majority of the diehards.

And so, at their recent AGM, Tomas and friends seemingly left, and the vacuum was filled by other people, with a new agenda. Well, perhaps not so much a new agenda, but rather a very old one. To go back to the past, and to do it unapologetically. An old logo, with the grb's checkerboard pattern replacing David Hill's mandated diamond scheme. A membership campaign highlighting the importance and centrality of the club to Australian Croatian identity, and the importance of Croatian identity to the club. A Croatian club for Croatians - pretty much everyone won't be excluded as a matter of practice, but the emphasis has been turned inward - while most of the old school wog clubs of any note have dithered on which direction to take - the vague promises of the future or the direction the Knights have chosen. Will it work? I have my doubts. It all seems too much like St George Budapest circa 1975, but with even less optimism and less opportunity to make something great out of it. It all seems rather reactionary than anything resembling a genuine plan.

What does this have to do with South? Well apart from them stealing entire passages from our own membership campaigns - see the 'Member get member section' of their 2010 membership brochure - it provides a chance for the two different reactions to the post-NSL landscape to be somewhat compared. Of course, the clubs come from different angles, have always had different reasons for being, and substantially different cultures - but it'll be interesting to see if either plan works. South's 'Need more Greeks' contingent is largely defeated, but as the events of the recent 2009 finals loss to Hume showed, sadly not entirely gone (Shane Nunes was racially abused by a couple of our so called fans, as well as hearing the catch cry of needing more Greeks who'd play with passion for the shirt, allegedly).

And it also shows two clubs who, in spite of the FFV's utter neglect in promoting or reforming the VPL, are at least taking matters into their own hands. It's not always entirely someone else's fault when things go wrong. Sometimes it can even be no one's fault at all. But at least taking a stance, following one direction, wherever it may lead, is a sign that these two clubs at least are seeking to take control of their own destiny. It's easier for some than others, of course. Cash, cultures, locations, history and demographic compatibility with the urgency of now, plus the question of how long committees with grand dreams can be held together. We'll see in time where it all ends up. And here I was thinking there wouldn't be anything to write about for the next couple of weeks.

Wednesday, 10 June 2009

Think about the possibilities...

You can be in a photo, taking your place underneath an ex-A-League law student of Hungarian descent, and next to some kid who deserves more game time and the captain.

You can meet the players outside of a nightclub/mosque/courtroom setting.

You could get some exercise you fat lardo, by warming up with the players.

You sit in the dressing room. Michael Michalokopoulos' spittle dusts your forehead as he urges the players on to great heights - or berates them for their inability to even downhill ski properly.

You sit on the bench. You can either have a good old fashioned chinwag with the fringe players, or stand next to the coach (if he lets you) and pretend you were a certain former football director. Earplugs recommended, but are not included in this prize.

You eat dinner, putting back in the calories you lost waddling around Bob Jane Stadium in the pre-match warm up, and then some. Awesome.

And just in case no one believes you when tell them of your awesome adventure, you'll be filmed and your face plastered all over the internet, on smfcTV as part of a special feature dedicated to you.

If you want to be in the running for this experience, head to the ebay listing, which was at $91 last time I checked, and place your bid. If I had money and there was no running involved, I'd give it a go. But me and running haven't agreed with each other for a long time. Sad but true.

www.smfc.com.au-South-Melbourne-ebay

Monday, 1 June 2009

A year and a bit down the track, Marinis gets his man

A curious addition to the Melbourne Knights squad last week... one Neil Young (WA State Rep) whom some of you might remember from this adventure. One wonders of course what might have been, on so many fronts... below are a couple of bits about the keeper we almost had.


YOUNG TORN ABOUT MOVING TO MELBOURNE

State goalkeeper Neil Young has embarked on a brave new phase in his career by joining Victorian Premier League club Melbourne Knights. The long-serving Sorrento stopper jetted out of town on Tuesday evening and is likely to make his debut for the Knights in Sunday's game with Richmond. "It's a bigger stage in Melbourne and you never know what may come of it," commented Young on moving east. "I've only ever played for Sorrento so I'm looking forward to experiencing another club and improving myself as a player ... and to get a trial with an A-League club would also be nice."

The Knights, currently tenth in the twelve-team VPL, made initial contact with Young earlier this year. "They've been in touch since the roughly the beginning of our season and made me a pretty good offer," said Young. "It wasn't the easiest decision I've ever made as I'm leaving my wife and two young boys behind. And when I told (Sorrento coach) Steve Neville I was a blubbering mess - so was he I might add - then telling the boys before the game on Saturday again brought tears to my eyes. I've been at the club fourteen seasons and have a lot of mates there who I'd also call family."

And it's that camaraderie that Young says he'll miss most about not being a Sorrento player. "There's some great banter in the change rooms, Thommo, Todd, Macca, Ordy, Nuggs, Banksy, Monty and even Kilkelly are good team mates but are also my best friends and it will be hard not to miss them," said the 29-year old 'keeper. "Sorrento is a family. Tom Bartlett and Derek Harnwell are great men and have looked after me like one of their own sons. And Nevs is a quality coach and a mate, he's always there for his players."

Young kept goal during the most successful period in Sorrento's history and has many fond memories from his time at the club. "Winning the Premier League title three times, once as captain, rate as the highlight along with being named the 2006 Goalkeeper of the Year, it's great to get personal awards too," said Young, who on four occasions wore State team colours. "It's a great honour to be selected in the State squad, and to hold the number one shirt for the games I played is something I'll always cherish."


Off some WA club forum

His command of his area is also a tremendous credit to him, an on song Neil Young will win you games. Also very aware of his tendency to 'self destruct', If he was a painter he would have probably cut off both of his ears by now! At this point he probably needs a new challenge and possesses the talent to rise to it.

Sunday, 18 January 2009

50th anniversary jersey, combines old and new into stunning design.

In a South of the Border exclusive, we can reveal to you dear readers a prototype of the jersey we'll be wearing in this, our 50th anniversary year. The crack design team from Cartoon Stock, who were commisioned for the project, issued the following explanation of some the design's elements.


"Owing to the mass amnesia of the involvement of South Melbourne United in the creation of South Melbourne Hellas, it was a no brainer to not even consider using the original red 'v' design. The thing to do then was to use the traditional blue motif, but instil some new and old meanings into the design; we wanted it to tell a story. So while maintaining blue as the pricniple colour, we've gone with a more faded blue, in homage to the Jim Marinis-not-washing-the-shirts-as- punishment-for-playing-like-shit-and-with-no-heart in 2007 era. We've also gone for a very, well what we thought was a cutting edge move, in putting a whole potato, to symbolise, well, the literal potato on the shoulder of the club. It also quietly pays due respect to South's place in Australia, the land from the which potato came, specifically the old Middle Park and its immediate surrounds, and the club's role in cultivating the crop which has been crucial in alleviating world hunger."


Cartoon Stock's fee for the design has been the subject of much speculation, with rumours even circulating that they have received monies from South Melbourne's 2012 World Club Championship money, which the club will receoive once they receive entry into the A-League and win the title at it's first attempt.


Sunday, 14 December 2008

Jim Marinis doesn't get FFV spot

As reported earlier, former South director and football operations dude Jim Marinis - now doing the same thing basically at Melbourne Knights - was in the running for a spot on the FFV board. As it turns out he didn't get it, with two of the three spots being won by people seeking re-election and, on face value at least, his tactic of not putting up a statement for the public to read not working in his favour. I guess we'll see him in round four then, maybe.

Friday, 5 December 2008

Of course we weren't the only ones to hold an AGM recently

The Melbourne Knights also had a little laid back Friday night session of Q and/or A.

For those who can't be bothered reading about monkeys and Jack Daniels Stadium, and who also believe both things they read on the internet and Knights fans (so I guess just me and Cuddles then) the main points are thus.

  • They have a large debt (or rather the Social Club does), but made a small profit.
  • Coburg owes them heaps for their tenancy at Knights Stadium
  • MCF was unhappy with the club being turned away from its Croatian roots/purpose.
  • Something about Yugos and Jews.
  • Average attendance of 580
  • As reported here before, Jim Marinis joining their board
  • And perhaps most importantly and interestingly, not one cent has yet been seen from their deal with Dinamo Zagreb. Makes ya think.

All in all, I'd still rather support South Melbourne Hellas. But then again, I'm probably some sort of cigan to them anyway.

Friday, 28 November 2008

At least he's keeping busy

Apart from jumping onto the Melbourne Knights wagon train of the future, Jim Marinis has also been nominated for a spot on the FFV board. Quite as to why he hasn't provided a statement unlike the other five nominess is anyone's guess.

Tuesday, 25 November 2008

Jim Marinis joins Melbourne Knights

I had an article published in Neos Kosmos English Weekly yesterday, after I was asked to pitch in by their sports editor James Belias who's off holidaying somewhere. It's basically a collection of cobbled up rumours, innuendo and rehashed news from the 2009 pre-season with particular reference to the, ahem, Greek clubs, whatever the fuck that means these days.

But there was one part that hasn't been widely or publically reported yet, and that was the interesting move of former board member and football operations dude Jim Marinis across to the Melbourne Knights to play out a similar role. Which is a shame really, not necessarily for what we've lost or gained in his moving on from our club - as that all depends on who you listen to and some people are quite biased in their opinions - but moreso for the fact that he's now working against the club he allgedly loves or once loved.

Friday, 25 July 2008

Jim Marinos still an ex-President

It's like that old Woody Allen joke about how a wife is for the duration of the marriage, but an ex-wife is for life... except that Jim Marinos (sic) was never South president. But we've been over this before.


Sidwell bid tipped to win second franchise

Another bid, to be known as Southern Cross FC, was headed by former South Melbourne president Jim Marinos, but was not representing the strong Greek-based club.


So well done Jake Niall and The Age, keep up the good work.

Where did they get the idea that Marinis was an ex-President?

Friday, 13 June 2008

Shake your Marinis, baby!

Bresciano, Grella back A-League bid

Peter Desira
The other two bids are headed by Colin DeLutis and Jim Marinis, but neither was willing to reveal details because they are yet to meet the FFA to make their official pitch.
Marinis is a former director of South Melbourne soccer club but said his bid had no association with South and no ethnic association.
Marinis has six partners in the bid.

Well, isn't that fabulous. Eh? What? Oh, just a short entry while I'm procrastinating to let everyone know that at least Desira is on the ball, in that he has Marinis as a former director of South rather than as a former president. And he spells Marinis correctly. Paying attention Silkstone? Anyway, this just looks like further proof that Marinis isn't in it for South any more. Indeed, rumours flying around indicate that Marinis is keen on getting to the A-League with or without South in tow. So now that looks to be all sorted, and that he probably won't get the Melbourne license anyway, good luck to him. As long as South is still here in some shape or form, why should anyone hold a grudge against the dreamers of dreams? They do make the world a more interesting place after all.

Sunday, 8 June 2008

Drilling For Oil In Somalia and Other Wacky Adventures

... I had said that if Whitlam won the election I would cry in front of the television set. In victory one should cry because of the perils of success; one should laugh in defeat. A friend said I'd better start laughing...

- Donald Horne, Death of the Lucky Country


By now this will have been plastered on every forum causing smallspread despair and widespread jubilation.


FFA snub angers South Melbourne

Dan Silkstone, June 7, 2008

SOUTH Melbourne Soccer Club has accused Football Federation Australia of running an unfair bid process for the expansion of the A-League.


South vice-president Jim Mellas said FFA had ignored an expression of interest from the club in joining an expanded elite competition. The club's treatment was in stark contrast to the treatment that Gold Coast United received before it accepted the competition's ninth licence yesterday.

He said FFA chief executive Ben Buckley had not returned several telephone calls made by club representatives in the past fortnight.

"We wrote them a letter two weeks ago," Mellas said. "We found out accidentally they had opened up bids. I'm not sure how we were supposed to know. We have heard nothing back."

Iron ore baron Clive Palmer signed the provisional agreement on behalf of Gold Coast United. Then he declared he would be disappointed if the new club failed to win the A-League in its debut season.


Palmer arrived at Skilled Park at Robina, where Gold Coast will play its home games, by helicopter. He said his three private jets would be on call for the team, which will play in the A-League in 2009-10.


Mellas has requested a meeting to make a presentation to Buckley. "It's clear they don't want to know us," he said.


"It is the perceived ethnic background of South Melbourne and the old NSL, but it is very unfair. For the past couple of years, we have worked to broaden our base and become more professional."


Buckley said last night a letter would be sent to the club, inviting it to make a bid. "They will get an opportunity to make their presentation to us," he said.


Mellas said South Melbourne directors learned that a process was under way only when reporters rang to ask if they had placed a bid.


On Tuesday, FFA announced that 10 bids had been received, including three from Melbourne. The fourth bid, from South Melbourne, will now be considered.


With AAP



First, the La La Land version. As we should all know by now, one time South board member Jim Marinis, he who ran the football department - thanks for 2006 Jim! - has been the brains, heart, lungs and pancreas of the so called South Pirates/Southern Cross bid for the 2nd Melbourne based A-League licence. Somewhere in the back of people's minds, we always knew that South Melbourne Hellas/FC as it was could never get in as itself, for reasons of both character and money - signs of the times we live in. But it was assumed that with a professional front and a small stake of say, about 15%, that South could perhaps be part of a larger thing, semi-sold out but with its own VPL team kept separate to remind us of our roots and for use as an escape pod, Heidelberg/Collingwood Warriors style. While there was never any direct evidence of this scenario occurring - whispers and hopeful suggestions by the South Board and Internet snooping not counting in my book - still the people clung on to the belief that it could be, nay, was true.

And so we went along with the plan, the Great Idea, to borrow from history another great folly of the Greeks. Twisting and turning, rationalising how we would be missed, then how we were missed; how we would be sorely needed, then how we were sorely needed; and asking everyone and ourselves where could they find enough fans for any new broadbased Victory like franchise - they couldn't and therefore we were in. The consortium would use Lakeside as a training and administrative base. Over time we'd buy our way to full or at least majority ownership. We'd even play in the original South Melbourne Hellas shirt with the red 'V', do whatever it took. And then the thudding back to reality.

Because unless this is some massive ruse, designed to divert attention from the fact that the Southern Cross bid is a South Melbourne bid in disguise, courtesy of its association with Jim Marinis, I feel obliged to say that ladies and gentlemen, we've been had. Not by the FFA necessarily - anyone with mind half open and not drugged up on our previous glory could see that we were only being paid lipservice - but by Marinis himself. A libelous statement? Perhaps. But where is the definitive proof that we have anything to do with the Southern Cross Pirates? If that smoking gun, or camel tracks in the Iraqi desert does exist somewhere out there, it's keeping a very low profile. Trade confidentiality? Possibly. But Sidwell and De Lutis, and other bids from across this big brown land have been more forthright with everyone, saying we have x amount of dollars, or this plan, or these people and this will likely be our name etc. The Southern Cross Pirates bid by comparison, has seemingly been pushed to the sidelines, as almost an afterthought. Once touted as a likely candidate, its appearance now takes the form of outsider. And if Southern Cross Pirates is an outsider, then what is South? A footnote, and not an important footnote that will be turned into a concept album by some prog rock behemoth; rather one of those boring ones that only come up in obscure doctorate theses, read by - and I have a human footnote who can prove this - on average 5 people worldwide.

So looking back on the post-NSL supposed temporary exile journey, was it all worth it? Hard to say. There were fun times to be sure. Rocking up late to Kevin Bartlett Reserve in 2006, in the first week of the Pirates craze, and hearing the pirate-esque 'arrrrggghhs' of the Clarendon Corner crew; the Jolly Roger hanging off the fence; the coincidence of the South coterie membership name being changed from Hellas 1oo to Southern Cross; that press release. And of course the Victory game, which was like a Sweet Sixteenth, Quinceañera, Debut, Graduation and Funeral all rolled into one. But all good things must come to an end. The Greek saying goes, too much laughter ends in tears, or words to that effect. And so the wild trip comes to an end. We're stuck in the fucking VPHell, and it's about time the club, all parts of it, got used to it. Scarcely no one has missed us; scarcely anyone remembers who we truly were, including our own supposed loyal fanbase, those 6,000 or so people who disappeared into the aether. And it's been that way ever since we were 'left out'.

This post is not meant to justify the thoughts of certain Greek ultra-nationalists, who will possibly point and say haha, you sold out and look what happened. Hardly. The club never truly sold out, it just evolved, with the key factor being the move from Middle Park to Lakeside, but that's a story for another day. Neither is it to justify the prejudices, soft and hard, of A-League fans, in particular those Bordeaux Monkeys from the Phone Dome. They got what they wanted, but because they can't see the forest for the trees they then complain about the lack of tradition in the game's new era; again a story for another day. This piece is meant only as a quiet lament , looking back with semi-fondness on all that we came and saw. And that from now on it should be back to business, our true business, of winning games in a tin pot suburban league, a shadow, but nevertheless ourselves, and not anybody else, enjoying what we have, what he had, and pitying the poor fools who have what they want and still find no pleasure in it. It's a tough ask I know. But I think we can do it. After all, what else we can do?


Now in the doctor's waiting room, I read the detailed poll figures. The people had not responded. I shut my left eye and with my right looked at the page: the grey blindness had spread half across the eye. Now the figures were obscured. That was better.

- Donald Horne, Death of the Lucky Country

Wednesday, 4 June 2008

Did you know?

That former, sorta, kinda maybe still is South Melbourne board member and third world exploiting (perhaps) mining non-magnate Jim Marinis was actually a former South Melbourne president? No? Well The Age says he was, so it must be true. Amongst other crap in that article Southern Cross, like its namesake constellation, keeps moving across the sky, this time from inner Melbourne out to Casey Fields. Less development equals less light pollution equals easier to see? Not from where I sit, which for your useless information happens to be in the western suburbs, with 12-14 townhouses which somewhat block the sun in the summertime, but have less impact in the wintertime. Want more clarity? Go visit the Victory forum, where the paranoid Bordeaux monkeys are usually first with all the latest news, making sure that South, nor any ethnic club but especially South, have anything to do with them.