Monday, 5 November 2018

More Hellenic history

This is a photo of Hellenic that I haven't seen before, found by Mark Boric, I assume in the old Greek sports paper Athletic Echo. The photo's a little dusky, and it'll probably be hard to compare the faces to other Hellenic photos to see if there are any resemblances with hitherto unknown players.

I'm guessing this is an away/alternate strip, but I don't have access to a Victorian soccer yearbook which lists the alternate kits for any clubs. The player listed here as K. Papadopoulos seems to have non-matching socks. I'm not sure what years this is from either, and though the article the photo came with mentions 1956 and '57, they are mentioned within the context of the club playing in the Victorian second division at the time.

Hellenic, 1957(?). The players are Arvanitakis (GK), K. Papadopoulos, George Karakyriakos, M. Karakyriakos, P. Rivans, Alecos Nanos, Costas Tzinis (player-coach), John Tsarouchas, G. Pipis, Luchetti, Antonis Karagiannis.


Some of the names I haven't come across before, while others I've seen but only with an initial, not a full first name, as is the case here. The short extract from article below the photo, notes that G. Kararakyriakos was a George. Ozfootball digging says that along with P. Rivans, there was a separate player named J. Rivans. Missing from the team photo, according to the article, are D. and H. Moshakis (the latter possibly a Haralambos, and Anglicised into Charlie), P. Tzimboglou, G. Papadopoulos, P.  Paleogiannidis (a goalkeeper, also spelled elsewhere as Paleoyiannidis, and finally an initial for him), and D. Karagiorgis.



Of course adapting Greek surnames into English, especially when you don't have access to what would've been the standard Anglicised spelling for each individual, makes things much more difficult. And that's not even getting into the Greek conventions when it comes to the initials used for first names. There are also some non-Greek names, which for the Rivans we can be sure of the spelling; for the possibly Italian Luchetti(?), well good luck with that.

The funniest part of this article is the description of Antonis Karagiannis as a "well-known cowboy", whatever that means! In a part of the article not shown here, playing coach Tzinis is quoted as saying "these boys played for the shirt and for the Greek name. But behind the team was an unspoken hero, who gave his soul for the team, and that man was George Lekatsas".

Cheers to Mark Boric for taking the time to dig this photo out!

2 comments:

  1. For previous photos with complete and incomplete team lists see

    https://southmelbournefc.blogspot.com/2015/11/ancient-hellenic-history-ii.html

    and

    https://southmelbournefc.blogspot.com/2009/02/ancient-hellenic-history.html

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  2. The article was in a 1988 issue of Athletic Echo. They are stored off=site by the SLV and can be retrieved as a single box. That year it was around A4 in size, thick paper, not stapled so it may be possible to make a better scan/copy. I think there are 16 pages in each issue.

    I also viewed the 1982-1983 Athletic Echo, which are all bound in a single volume. They were more of a standard newspaper size, larger than the 1988 issues.

    1982-83 covered the lower leagues in greater depth, as opposed to 1988 which had the NSL and VSL only. Though that coverage did not extend to detailed results or tables sections, but there seemed to be columns and segments focusing on lower tier clubs. That said I can't read Greek but think I was able to discern between the coverage of local and Australian football and that of Greek and international football.

    The Hellenic photo stood out, as it clearly had a 1950's Melbourne vibe. The building in the background is probably identifiable to some.

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