tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post8875382523289945815..comments2024-03-16T09:26:42.761+11:00Comments on South of the Border - a South Melbourne Hellas blog: Have a go, ya mugs! South Melbourne 2 Hume City 2Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844708719537648292noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-46929140688438471012016-07-06T18:02:19.076+10:002016-07-06T18:02:19.076+10:00I'm not one for making match predictions. I te...I'm not one for making match predictions. I tend to expect the worst, hope for the best, and attempt to make sense of the carnage after the fact.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206486881622385464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-38173690032224049242016-07-06T14:36:48.055+10:002016-07-06T14:36:48.055+10:00Agree with your sentiments Paul regarding the Vict...Agree with your sentiments Paul regarding the Victory tribunal decision. Any Thunder supporter would be livid with the punishment that was handed out to the franchise. Fortunately, the Club was able to navigate its way through this quagmire, and not be dragged into this mess.<br /><br />As for the Hume match, it was great to see the intensity and energy levels of the South players. It was something that had been missing for the last few months. However, that said, our defensive effort at times was embarrassing. To conceded so quickly after going ahead in the second half was down to pathetic and non existent marking and loss of concentration.<br /><br />The referee from the Hume match completely and utterly lost control of the match and was actually not only frustrating the fans, but the players as well. He belongs in the Sunday morning suburban kick arounds, officiating Under 9s matches.<br /><br />Paul - your thoughts on how we will fare on Friday - No Lujic, no Mala, no CT. Can we pull off the great escape?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-90373144409727045422016-07-06T09:02:22.485+10:002016-07-06T09:02:22.485+10:00I agree 100% that this is all to be expected and t...I agree 100% that this is all to be expected and there is certainly no reason to lose sleep over it. As you say, life goes on. But likewise on the flipside life should go on the same for us and we stay militant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-80304194719456633512016-07-05T09:07:43.537+10:002016-07-05T09:07:43.537+10:00I understood while writing this that it probably w...I understood while writing this that it probably wouldn't satisfy those looking for something with a bit more bloodlust. And there's probably an article that could be written that would tackle the issue from that angle. Maybe I'm in a jaded place, but I also think that a fire and brimstone approach would be a bit too kneejerk, a bit too 2007,<br /><br />But one of the things that I got out of this process was the sense of futility among the soccer community in the wash-up. We expected a crappy result, we got one, life goes on. With regards to Victory and Heart being in NPL at all, there's little that FFV - even with a board that's less sympathetic to them - can do to oust them, because their inclusion is part of a broader FFA initiative, with consequences for not including those franchises in the state comps.<br /><br />I also don't agree that the current FFV board would be happy with this result, but the tribunal is meant to be independent, regardless of former CEO Peter Gome's chats with Ian Robson prior to the tribunal hearing. (and I have it on good authority that he was let go not for any intimation of improper conduct on that front, but because FFV, having emerged from a dodgy financial period, is genuinely looking to go in another direction and felt that a different CEO would be better for that).<br /><br />Rather than a structural issue in terms of favouring the Victory, I think what has existed at FFV has been a cultural reflex to please them. Management especially perhaps saw Victory (and pleasing Victory) as an easy way of promoting the game.<br /><br />I think there's also an aspect in which South itself would be pleased with elements of this result. Putting our biases and arguments about self-defense aside for a moment, I think had something like this happened at a lower league game, then the tribunal would have found a way to go after both sides.<br /><br />If that sounds like I think this tribunal decision has the whiff of contrivance, that's because I do. But it's the contrivance of a number of parties, and not just one.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206486881622385464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-29971774436613566892016-07-05T08:28:06.489+10:002016-07-05T08:28:06.489+10:00I don't know! But I bet if you put that questi...I don't know! But I bet if you put that question on a t-shirt, you could make a mint selling it to ironic nostalgia obsessed millenials and assorted hipsters.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206486881622385464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-30466525671208553442016-07-05T08:25:11.454+10:002016-07-05T08:25:11.454+10:00And, where/what was it from which The Mack returne...And, where/what was it from which The Mack returned?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-22361620602854005222016-07-05T08:17:54.224+10:002016-07-05T08:17:54.224+10:00As always, it will be interesting to see how the p...As always, it will be interesting to see how the parallel universe of NSW soccer handles high profile/highly combustible fixtures in future - though given the more ready use of the behind closed doors/members mantra in Sydney, there's a good chance that nothing will happen at all.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206486881622385464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-81596918034660636342016-07-05T08:15:36.081+10:002016-07-05T08:15:36.081+10:001. I think never, in part because I think South di...1. I think never, in part because I think South did well out of this case itself - because regardless of whether someone thinks they had no charge to argue, the usual practice is to go hard after anyone involved in a brawl such as this.<br /><br />2. Also never.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206486881622385464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-34512193606280749822016-07-05T08:00:15.609+10:002016-07-05T08:00:15.609+10:00Good dissection, but then... nothing? I think the ...Good dissection, but then... nothing? I think the conclusion your reaching is a bit of a 'gloss over' on the general behaviour of the FFV to clubs like hellas. A state federation set up by structure to support a particular club ahead of others is beyond laughable and if interest in our league wasn't so pitiful and the clubs had a slightly larger following, then we'd have the energy to mount a good case with authorities in both football (international) and in society (legal system). Alas, it's not likely and they know it. However, in the case of this blog which I certainly expect to be somewhat of a bulwark, it seems there's an element of growing immunity towards the blatant and constant unfairness. Studs up Paul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-13791449193135391062016-07-05T07:14:34.910+10:002016-07-05T07:14:34.910+10:00At what point does South publicly call out MV and ...At what point does South publicly call out MV and FFV?<br /><br />When do the other clubs jump on and condemn this farcical tribunal finding?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-71132977481251227052016-07-05T07:12:44.130+10:002016-07-05T07:12:44.130+10:00Rock Banyon taught me jazz men don't need to d...Rock Banyon taught me jazz men don't need to do no strings record.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-67434621628221502652016-07-05T07:06:45.997+10:002016-07-05T07:06:45.997+10:00The franchise comment that it turns over 19 millio...The franchise comment that it turns over 19 million and spends 6 figures on security.<br />If they are spending 6 figures on security why were they unable to prevent such morons from attending at Lakeside(surely the marshals could have identified troublemakers when gaining entry to Lakeside)? Given the small numbers they have attending NPL it should have not been an issue. Perhaps the biggest indictment on there so called fans is that they were not allowed in at the home game against Knights.Says it all really.<br /><br />If i was Dandenong Thunder i would be baffled and hoping for a refund and some compensation for lost revenue.<br /><br />The FFV need to stand up and f@ck them and Heart(or whatever they are called this season)off out of the Victorian football pyramid. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-6949043746177312182016-07-04T22:14:58.869+10:002016-07-04T22:14:58.869+10:00I forgot to mention Taylor making a very uncharact...I forgot to mention Taylor making a very uncharacteristic early double substitution in this match. An interesting move.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206486881622385464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7503414687298565438.post-63202070113698709532016-07-04T16:43:11.729+10:002016-07-04T16:43:11.729+10:00Good work, Paul.
But, I read a rumour on twitter ...Good work, Paul.<br /><br />But, I read a rumour on twitter earlier today/last night that in NSW they are EXPANDING the top division from 12 to 14.<br /><br />Whilst the VIC top division is already at 14, and therefore will nearly certainly remain at 14 rather than increase to say, 16, it makes you wonder ever so slightly about the merits of ONLY applying a points penalty.Savvas Tzionhshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763693747144083898noreply@blogger.com